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May 15th, 2012
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Live Free or Die
Just got into my first altercation over our Obama bumper sticker up here in NH. 40ish white guy on a motorcycle asks me if I'm a teacher as I head for the car in the post office parking lot. (Because of course any 50ish white guy with an Obama sticker has to work in the public sector, and I don't look like a cop.) I tell him, no, and he calls me a moonbat for supporting Obama.... I ask him why he can't support his own opinion without resulting to insults. He tells me I'm stupid for supporting the guy who brought us the worst economy in seventy-five years. I point out that Bush brought us the economy, that Obama's been trying to fix it without much help from the Republicans. He calls me an idiot and rides away.

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From:asakiyume
Date:May 15th, 2012 06:32 pm (UTC)
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Thanks for sticking up for Obama. You answered that guy bravely.
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From:scbutler
Date:May 15th, 2012 08:05 pm (UTC)
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Nah. It's just testosterone.
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From:elven_wolf
Date:May 15th, 2012 06:32 pm (UTC)
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Just goes to show, you can't fix stupid.
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From:scbutler
Date:May 15th, 2012 08:05 pm (UTC)
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Truly.
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From:barbarienne
Date:May 15th, 2012 06:48 pm (UTC)
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I think I would have just ignored him. Years of the NYC subway have instilled a "do not engage with the crazy people" reflex.
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From:scbutler
Date:May 15th, 2012 08:06 pm (UTC)
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I wouldn't have ignored hin in NYC either, and I'm a native.
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From:sartorias
Date:May 15th, 2012 07:10 pm (UTC)
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He's an idiot.
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From:scbutler
Date:May 15th, 2012 08:06 pm (UTC)
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Agreed. And not alone in his idiocy, either, I'm afraid.
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From:cucumberseed
Date:May 15th, 2012 07:46 pm (UTC)
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We've moved into road-rage territory down here in CT. Two incidents already. I had forgotten what it was like.
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From:scbutler
Date:May 15th, 2012 08:08 pm (UTC)
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It's going to be an ugly election. The Republicans have been denying the legitimacy of elected Democrats for the last twenty years has given their rank and file an unbelievable sense of entitlement. It's white males like me that are discriminated against these days, right?
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From:cucumberseed
Date:May 15th, 2012 08:11 pm (UTC)
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Yeah. Ugly is the right word for it.
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From:hand2hand
Date:May 15th, 2012 09:43 pm (UTC)
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so sorry. but thank you for offering a counter argument anyway.
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From:scbutler
Date:May 16th, 2012 09:49 pm (UTC)
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Ya gotta engage, no matter how painful. Can't just let them bully.
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From:steve_buchheit
Date:May 16th, 2012 01:49 am (UTC)
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"And that, you honor, is when I shot him in the face."

I feel your pain. The last three places I've worked are all run by die-hard conservatives who have told me if they knew I wasn't, wouldn't have hired me. It's going to be a rough 6 months.
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From:scbutler
Date:May 16th, 2012 09:52 pm (UTC)
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I think the most disheartening aspect of current movement conservatism is its belief that all other views are illegitimate. It's become a religion.

Oddly, it was almost as bad when I was in college in the '70s. Only then it was liberals sneering at the other side.

Almost, as bad, mind you. This is much worse.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:May 28th, 2012 05:01 pm (UTC)
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My adrenaline sparks reading this. I have blinders on. I just don't want to know... but I do know and I get soooo mad. Most of the guys I hang out with, not by choice by necessity, are conservative, ... I've become the voice of the non-bigoted(bigoted? In 2012, Northern California. What? sadly true...) liberal left but I can't do it justice. So I have claimed my stupidity and declared that I'm just a hippy. It gets me by as I hide my seething.

So thank you Sam, for speaking intelligently in a unnecessary attack. To me its heroic because I can't (or do not have courage and/or the self-limited education) to do the same.

Andrew
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From:scbutler
Date:May 29th, 2012 06:16 pm (UTC)
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I've been in this position before, as the designated lefty on a Wall Street trading desk. Interestingly, the younger crowd on Wall Street is much more conservative than the older.

Those youngsters - they did it all on their own, right?
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